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Post by Kyousuke Sumeragi on Oct 15, 2004 9:57:28 GMT -5
All right then, I'll change it to replacement costs then... And here's a unfixed and sligthly screwed example of BLOX unit. Please give your comments. Leo Blaze
Statistics:HP: 25, EN: 20, IS: 4, Size: S[/color] Weapons: 2-Barrel Shock Cannon (S)- 6 damage x 2, 10 rounds Bite Fang (MV)- 8 damage/PC, PARALYZE Strike Laser Claw (M)- 10 damage x 2 Zan Blade- 30 damage, 1 EN/attackInherent Abilities: 1) Zoids; Usable by Corporals or higher 2) Countercut 3) Countershoot: 2-Barrel Shock Cannon 4) Dodge Cost -5 5) E Shield (Barrier)BLOX Mode:[/li][li] Equipped unit gains: Weapon: Zan Blade- 30 damage, 1 EN/attackInherent Abilities: X) CountercutPurchasing Cost: 200 PCsEDITS: Changed the Geno Scissors and Troopers acquistion requirement, and removed Psycho's sidekick from the last post. GH is now Hi-Tier and CAS IS-problem fixed. Please give comments before I released them... Extra: Zoids will tags will probably have decription like the OF, I'll post them later once I finished up fixing.
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Post by Veshin on Oct 16, 2004 15:14:35 GMT -5
Hmm well after looking at the newly posted units I have noticed several things that don't quite fit. For one the Hydra KA should lose the additional heads seeing as how it doesn't have them and I don't remember it having 2 Particle Cannons either for that matter. Also the protobreaker should have less hp then the genobreaker not more and equal energy. As for the psycho genosaurer it has always had less EN & Hp then the Breaker. I say all this based on both zoids saga 1 & 2 as well Versus 2. Oh and I love the way you are doing the blox zoids.
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Post by Kyousuke Sumeragi on Oct 17, 2004 5:26:13 GMT -5
Bascially what I did to them is, that I fused both infos and stats from the Saga 1 and 2.
Geno Hydra KA: - The one is normal output and the other is maximum output. - The other head of the Hydra is on the tail and the other 2 is on the main head. It keeps changing heads when using another weapon.
Proto Breaker and Psycho Genosaurer: - I'll check more on it...
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Post by Aslan Cross on Oct 18, 2004 6:00:42 GMT -5
I think the BLOX system itself is fine, what really bothers me about the Zoids in general is that a lot of them are made expensive and hi-tier (like Berserk Fuhrer, for example) but they don't really have anything that deserves that price or the HT tag.
Compare them with these High Tier RRs: DEEP STRIKER: huge DC bonus, damage reduction, massive target DC penalties. Nu Gundam: Lots of multi-hit weapons, Psychoframe, barrier.
If you think about it, Hückebein Gunner is way above the level of Berserk Fuhrer, costs about the same, and isn't Hi-Tier. Take it easy on the prices and Hi-Tier tag.
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Post by Blaine Kodos on Oct 19, 2004 15:48:49 GMT -5
I'm glad to see the Shadow Fox. Really glad. Super really glad. Buuuuuuuuuuut...
....does its gun have to use PCs? ;_;
Other than that, I'm impressed so see so many different Zoids on the docket. All I have to wonder, however.. is if/when we'll see some of the Zero custom units. Leena's GunSniper, Harry Champ's rhino.. thing, and the like.
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Post by CowboyJohnny on Oct 19, 2004 16:35:31 GMT -5
Personally I look at something like Berserk Fuhrer and say "Yeah, I bet that could take Yatenkou." I just wanted to ask people to make it clear that the frame change to "Normal" = Berserk when these are posted in the hangar; looking at the units all listed I spent a little while searching for a plain "Fuhrer" unit.
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Post by Kyousuke Sumeragi on Oct 20, 2004 8:49:22 GMT -5
All right... Changes: - most of the Genos & Fuhrers got a -50~150 PCs slash (I hope this is the final... T_T) - Remove HT tag on boith Fuhrers and GH. - GH and KA version's DR got is reduced by 10% - Psycho Geno & Proto Breaker's HP & EN lowered a bit Notes: - some of the changes might and will undergo as well... I'm still re-watching recorded episodes of the Zoids Chaotic Century, Guardian Force and Zero. ^^; Aslan: Maybe you could give a suggestion about the pricing... b'coz it's very and really hard to estimate their prices, especially when in the game, each Zoids cost like 10000 or higher. And that you'll have to convert that into a lower one that can make the unit appealing to the people. Cowboy: Fixed... that one. ^^; Blaine: The Customs... they will be, once we wrap this problems up. As for the Shadow Fox... PCs are well enough for the AP Laser Vulcan's cost. Seeing that it cost only 1 PC, and do decent damage, plus it has this particular ability: AP Laser Vulcan: Ignores target's armor abilities. Anymore questions? Suggestions? Comments? I'm starting to itch and post them in the Hangar. XD EDIT: Berserk Fuhrer's Buster Claw is fixed, to make it not redundant
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Post by Mechalomaniac on Oct 20, 2004 10:55:38 GMT -5
The stats look pretty accurate to what the Geno's are. The resale price on the Psycho Genosaurer looks pretty high, maybe drop it to about 300 or so. Other than that I think they're good to go.
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Post by Aslan Cross on Oct 20, 2004 18:57:02 GMT -5
Zengar> I think it's best to just forget about the prices in the game and compare the stats you came up with to similar ones in the SC. Of course, you still have to keep things in scale.
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Post by Ta-kun on Oct 29, 2004 10:10:07 GMT -5
Zenga is working in BLOX units... >.> well, I'm currently playing ZOIDS for GBA so I might help with stats.
do you plan to do the gattai BLOX units too right zengy? (waits for the Fuzor Dragon and Chimera Dragon)
BTW, I've been reading your comments about BLOX's units gattai. an item? >.>; deck commands are not items, are skills you get to memorize. the hability "Changemize" used by BLOX units (such as F. Dragon Gattai) works like a Yuusha's gattai, if all units are present, they might gattai. but we sould give Quick Deploy for some instances.
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Post by Kazu Klyne on Oct 30, 2004 1:41:12 GMT -5
deck commands are not items, are skills you get to memorize. the hability "Changemize" used by BLOX units (such as F. Dragon Gattai) works like a Yuusha's gattai, if all units are present, they might gattai. but we sould give Quick Deploy for some instances. Deck Commands are more like Seshins then items...although they are found in chests...
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Post by Kyousuke Sumeragi on Oct 30, 2004 1:45:04 GMT -5
Garrod> Yup, I'm working on 'em right. Post your ideas as well as we can compare them as well.
The Fuzed Zoids WILL have 'Rapid Deployment' since you can use them immediately in the game.
Deck Commands... I think the seishins can cover them, as well as the inherent abilities.
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Post by Ta-kun on Oct 31, 2004 2:05:33 GMT -5
lemme see if I got this well, BLOX unit gets the mentioned weapon in Gattai form,
then Fuzor Dragon would get 2 (M) counttercut giving weapons. Leo Blaze's Zan Blade and the green bird (dun remember the name) (M) Tail Saw. wich is not consistant...
even thou that in 2 Arms Dragon gattai (Unenlagia + Leo Blaze) you do get Zan Blade. >.>;
hm... this might need a bit more thought....
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Post by Mechalomaniac on Oct 31, 2004 2:16:15 GMT -5
I think the idea of equipping the BLOX to another Zoid gives said weapon. For example equipping the Leo Blaze to a Shield Liger gives it the Zan Blade Attack and Countercut. The Matrix Dragon and the other Gattai'd BLOX would just have seperate stats like other combiners, and not necessarly have the attacks the BLOX give as items.
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Post by Imban on Oct 31, 2004 10:31:57 GMT -5
The BLOX Gattai Forms get their own specific weapons, and not necessarily all of the ones which can be "equipped on" from their component BLOX. The "equip on" list only applies to attaching a BLOX to a normal Zoid.
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