Re: Pilot Skills...?

[Trigger]

Pollo Bump, don't want this cool idea to fade away

[Regris Kallen]

... Oh yeah, I'll post this up tonight.

[Regris Kallen]

Gun Bunny
Level 1 - All attacks damage increased by 10%
Level 2 - All attacks damage increased by 20%
Level 3 - All attacks damage increased by 30%

Level 1 is 200 UP -> Level 2 is 250 UP -> Level 3 is 300 UP

Brawler
Level 1 - All attacks damage increase by 10%
Level 2 - All attacks damage increase by 20%
Level 3 - All attacks damage increase by 30%

Level 1 is 200 UP -> Level 2 is 250 UP -> Level 3 is 300 UP

Counterattack - Can block and attack in the same round. Requires charging.
Level 1 - Charging time is 5 turns.
Level 2 - Charging time is 4 turns.
Level 3 - Charging time is 3 turns.

Level 1 is 300 UP -> Level 2 is 400 UP -> Level 3 is 500 UP

Precise Aim
Level 1 - All attacks Enemy DC +2
Level 2 - All attacks Enemy DC +4
Level 3 - All attacks Enemy DC +6

Level 1 is 200 UP -> Level 2 is 250 UP -> Level 3 is 300 UP

Agile
Level 1 - Personal DC -2
Level 2 - Personal DC -4
Level 3 - Personal DC -6

Level 1 is 200 UP -> Level 2 is 250 UP -> Level 3 is 300 UP

Bodyguard
Level 1 - Defense boost of 10% when Support Defending
Level 2 - Defense boost of 15% when Support Defending
Level 3 - Defense boost of 20% when Support Defending

Level 1 is 150 UP -> Level 2 is 250 UP -> Level 3 is 350 UP

Trick Shot
Level 1 - Enemy Countercut cost is increased by 20% for (P) attacks
Level 2 - Enemy Countercut cost is increased by 40% for (P) attacks
Level 3 - Enemy Countercut cost is increased by 60% for (P) attacks

Level 1 is 150 UP -> Level 2 is 250 UP -> Level 3 is 350 UP

Reduced SP Cost
Level 1 - All seishin cost 10% less to cast
Level 2 - All seishin cost 15% less to cast
Level 3 - All seishin cost 20% less to cast

Level 1 is 500 UP -> Level 2 is 600 UP -> Level 3 is 700 UP

B Save
Level 1 - Ammo capacity +20%
Level 2 - Ammo capacity +40%
Level 3 - Ammo capacity +60%

Level 1 is 500 UP -> Level 2 is 600 UP -> Level 3 is 700 UP

E Save

Level 1 - EN Consumption -10%
Level 2 - EN Consumption -20%
Level 3 - EN Consumption -30%

Level 1 is 500 UP -> Level 2 is 600 UP -> Level 3 is 700 UP

SP Up
Level 1 - +10 SP
Level 2 - +20 SP
Level 3 - +30 SP

Level 1 is 300 UP -> Level 2 is 400 UP -> Level 3 is 500 UP

Engineer
Level 1 - Repair restores an additional 5% HP.
Level 2 - Repair restores an additional 10% HP.
Level 3 - Repair restores an additional 15% HP.

Level 1 is 200 UPs -> Level 2 is 400 UPs -> Level 3 is 600 UPs

Logistic Support
Level 1 - Resupply restores an additional 5% EN.
Level 2 - Resupply restores an additional 10% EN.
Level 3 - Resupply restores an additional 15% EN.

Level 1 is 200 UPs -> Level 2 is 400 UPs -> Level 3 is 600 UPs

Leadership
Level 1 - Two allies gain -2 DC
Level 2 - Three allies gain -3 DC
Level 3 - Four Allies gain -4 DC

Level 1 is 300 UPs -> Level 2 is 400 UPs -> Level 3 is 500 UPs

Medic!
Level 2 - Can Repair or resupply while not losing attack phase.

Level 2 is 700 UPs

[Regris Kallen]

For balance's sake, I'm going to say that you can only have a combined level of 8 for skills, sooo something like...

Skills:
- Leadership Lv. 2
- Gun Bunny Lv. 3
- Medic! Lv. 2
- SP Up Lv. 1


I've looked over some of the discussions proposed, and I'm going to have ot say a limit of 8 for skill levels is a pretty decent boost, while not making your class severely overpowered. Sure, I could say, "The games go like this, so we should do the same thing," but it's pretty common logic that SC mechanics != SRW mechanics and as such, I've taken that kind of advice sparingly.

Also, I think starting with a 400 UP or less skill, kind of like starting with a seishin, would be an acceptable option.

[Umbaglo]

I still don't think that is required. It's not like we have a limit on the costs of spells a person can have, or the price of the equipment they use. A lot of these things are VERY expensive to acquire. That by itself is a fair deterrant. A limit to the number of slots, for sure. But limiting the levels is a bit much.

[Ryune Zoldark]

I agree. The 4-slot only is limiting enough.

[Daki]

It'll give people reason again to buy more than one sub character type though. I think its quite nice as is, and comming from an exploiter of all things possable, I think that says something ^^'

[Signal]

So far i have my own idea for this Pilot Skill, instead of using multiple Levels why not have a single level of skill. which can only add up to a maximum of 4 skill slots per person which is like in SRW basis.

Pilot Skills

Gunfight - All Ranged Weapon damage +25%

UP Costs - 600 UP's

Infight - All Melee Weapon damage +25%

UP Costs - 600 UP's

Counter - Allows a unit to block and attack for a single turn, requires charging based on rank

UP Costs - 500 UP's

Private - 7 Turns
Sergeant - 6 Turns
Corporal - 5 Turns
Ensign - 4 Turns
Lieutenant - 3 Turns

Support - When executing Combo attacks, Combo attack damage +50%

UP Costs - 300 UP's

Psychic Energy - All Psychodriver only weapons damage +25%, Target's Dodge Cost +3

UP Costs - 850 UP's

Concentration Power - Target's Dodge Cost +5 and Weapon Damage +50%, requires charging based on rank.

UP Costs - 900 UP's

Private - 7 Turns
Sergeant - 6 Turns
Corporal - 5 Turns
Ensign - 4 Turns
Lieutenant - 3 Turns

Hit and Away - Target's Dodge Cost +3, Dodge Cost -5 when Dodging.

UP Costs - 1200 UP's

Potential - Gain Bonuses depending on your HP

UP Costs - 1700 UP's

HP is 41-50% - Damage received -10%, Damage Dealt +10%
HP is 31-40% - Damage received -15%, Damage Dealt +15%
HP is 21-30% - Damage received -20%, Damage Dealt +20%
HP is 11-20% - Damage received -25%, Damage Dealt +25%
HP is 1-10% - Damage received -30%, Damage Dealt +30%

Lucky - All PC gains at the end of the battle x 1.5

UP Costs - 700 UP's

Leadership - Gain bonuses according to rank

UP Costs - 900 UP's

Private - No Bonus
Corporal - All Allies gain Dodge Cost -2
Sergeant - All Allies gain Dodge Cost -3
Ensign - All Allies gain Dodge Cost -4
Lieutenant - All Allies gain Dodge Cost -5

Steel Body - When Support Defending, damage received -25%

UP Costs - 550 UP's

Strong Luck - Dodge 1 of every 5 attacks directed at you.

UP Costs - 1100 UP's

Foresight - Gain a single Free Dodge, requires charging based on rank.

UP Costs - 1100 UP's

Private - 7 Turns
Corporal - 6 Turns
Sergeant - 5 Turns
Ensign - 4 Turns
Lieutenant - 3 Turns

Veteran - Damage Received -15% and Dodge Cost -5 only when using any Mothership Class unit.

UP Costs - 1300 UP's

Genius - Dodge Cost -5, Target's Dodge Cost +5

UP Cost - 2000 UP's

SP UP - Increase Maximum SP Capacity by 30%

UP Cost - 1650 UP's

Revenge - If any Allied Player falls in battle, gain All weapon damage +25%, Target's Dodge Cost +3, Dodge Cost -5, Damage Received -20%

UP Cost - 750 UP's

SP Recovery - Recover 2 SP every turn

UP Cost - 2100 UP's

SP Save - Seishin Cost -25%

UP Cost - 2000 UP's

E Save - All EN consumtion -25%

UP Cost - 1400 UP's

A Save - All Weapons Ammo +25%

UP Cost - 1200 UP's

Brave Hero - All Melee weapon damage received -25%, Countercut Cost down by 1 EN interval and 2 PC interval

UP Costs - 1150 UP's

Supernatural - Target's Seishin Cost x 1.25

UP Costs - 1850 UP's

these are the ones based on from OG and @2 although just a prototype yet since i based them directly from the games themselves.

[Berrik]

Actually you can stop now. A lot of those are either redundant or broken.

[Tavish]

That did give me a thought. How about Class Specific Skills? Ones that build off of existing abilities, such as extensions of psychic abilities in Newtypes, Enhanced Humans, and a varying set for Psychodrivers.

Of course, these wouldn't just improve existing pilot abilities straight up... because, we soooo need an x4 to x8 damage Getter Potential.

[Signal]

Updated All above current stuff i posted a few hours ago...

[RurouninMao]

Regardinbg Regris' Idea

I take you need a lower level version of one skill to get the hiher version one am i right? As in you need GuNBunny Lvl1 to get Lvl2 which will overrite Lvl1?

[Regris Kallen]

That would be a fact, Sir Mao.

[Signal]

We could do like remix the idea and find a solution to reduce and balance all things out?

[Regris Kallen]

That's kinda why I posted these, y'know. I can't do much if people don't comment on them.