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Post by Umbaglo on Jan 26, 2005 9:21:46 GMT -5
What's stronger? 3 different classes, or 3 Getter Pilots? I don't know about you, but getting 2 magical GPs out of thin air seems a lot more broken to me. Or having a magical PD join you, so you can have 20 turns of complete invincibility.
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Post by RurouninMao on Jan 26, 2005 9:30:36 GMT -5
Dude, 3 different classes that can use a class specific ability while still retaining there original ability without wasting an IS is stronger, i mean you said it your self having a magical PD join you, so you can have 20 turns of complete invincibility, now isnt that strong? I mean if all of you are GP then its not that much of a problem. Also were not talking about magically appear, its more or less a rule thing.
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Post by Umbaglo on Jan 26, 2005 9:35:06 GMT -5
Judging from your response, you seem to have entirely missed what I said. I did not say class abilities (IE: Potential). I said class-restricted weapons and abilities (IE: Getter Change Attack). As in, the stuff on the unit themselves.
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Post by RurouninMao on Jan 26, 2005 9:41:03 GMT -5
That is what i said, from what i understand of your porposal, you want in a SAMW macth any 3 class when manned in a class specific SAMW mech, be able to use there weapons am i right? Then what about their own abilities, dont tell me when the Getter Switch to another form and whomever is manning that form dont have acces to his pilot ability other than the ability to use the Weapons and ability that are pilto specific do you?
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Post by Umbaglo on Jan 26, 2005 9:51:58 GMT -5
Of course they would. Which is not as powerful as having 3 Getter Pilots (which you get for free) manning the thing. Even a Mazin is not going to be dealing as much damage with Change Attack, let alone if you put in a Valk or a Heavy Metal.
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Post by RurouninMao on Jan 26, 2005 10:11:10 GMT -5
Yeah they wouldnt be dealing as much damage, but what about the other things they can do, A PT can just use his overload to swarm you, a Tensai can use the attack more, A MAzinger although cant do as much damage, but Can take a hell lot more than a GP would.
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Post by Arad Baranga on Jan 26, 2005 10:13:28 GMT -5
And so it's no an issue of these classes being more powerful, it's an issue of them having different strengths. What's wrong with that?
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Post by Aslan Cross on Jan 26, 2005 19:31:37 GMT -5
With attacks, that isn't really a problem. With abilities like Nendou field, however, I think it's broken. Sure, there's only one unit (RyuKouOu) that transforms and has a Nendou Field, but with Getters, all you need to do is have a Psychodriver in one seat and equip a Psychic Generator and you'll have Getter pilots (or whatever class) with Nendou Fields. Granted that Psychic Gen is a high tier item and that there aren't that many Getters, I don't think allowing a few units and item setups to be broken is a good idea. We have a lot of broken stuff as it is.
Again, I'm all for removing weapon locks if a pilot that can use them is in the mech. Just no abilities.
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Post by Arad Baranga on Jan 26, 2005 20:04:53 GMT -5
I'm fine with just weapons, too. You do have a point. It would be messed up with ANY class barrier or item.
Hyper Mode/Nendou Field/Mazinger Pilot in a Getter.
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Post by Umbaglo on Jan 26, 2005 20:07:36 GMT -5
I was thinking it was just the abilities that are already in the unit, not equipped stuff, but that works.
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Post by Tavish on Jan 26, 2005 21:26:57 GMT -5
Besides, we all know Musashi is the real Getter Pilot of the team.
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Post by RurouninMao on Jan 27, 2005 9:50:29 GMT -5
Again, I'm all for removing weapon locks if a pilot that can use them is in the mech. Just no abilities. I agree on this one
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Post by Aslan Cross on Jan 28, 2005 7:13:24 GMT -5
If there is nothing else to be said about this, we can go ahead and implement it.
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Post by Kyoryushin on Jan 28, 2005 7:57:36 GMT -5
Oh one thing, can i be that the needed class must man the Main defult unit. I think this would be more fitting since mostly the default unit be the leader type
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Post by tiffac on Feb 1, 2005 2:23:24 GMT -5
Besides, we all know Musashi is the real Getter Pilot of the team. I just want to say that I agree with this... ;D
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