Xi Gundam and Penelope

[Beanoverse]

Recently an issue regarding the Xi Gundam and Penelope has arisen:

I've been thinking for the past few days. Seeing Xi's and Penelope's stats in the SC, you could see that it is weak and virtually defenseless against a mech with countercut. That's why I tried to make some new stast for both of them, to make them worthy of their Ensign rank and price, as well as their "non-weenie" status. (Face it, with 60 HP, it aint gonna slip in through weenie holes. ^^;


Xi Gundam

Stats:
HP: 60, EN: 25, IS: 2

Weapons:
1) Vulcan - 2 damage x 2, 20 rounds
2) Missile Launcher (P)- 4 damage x 2, 5 rounds
3) Beam Saber (M)- 12 damage
4) Beam Rifle (B)- 12 damage, 10 rounds
5) Funnel Missile (PSX)- 12 damage/PC. Requires NT/EH ability

Inherent Abilities:
1) Shield
2) Countercut
3) Minovski Engine: Dodge Cost -5
4) Beam Coating
5) Usable by Ensigns and above




Penelope

Stats:
HP: 75, EN: 25, IS: 2

Weapons:
1) Vulcan - 2 damage x 2, 20 rounds
2) Missile Launcher (P)- 10 damage, 10 rounds
3) Beam Saber (M)- 12 damage
4) Beam Rifle (B)- 15 damage, 8 rounds
5) Funnel Missile (PSX)- 12 damage/PC. Requires NT/EH ability

Inherent Abilities:
1) Countercut
2) High-Output Minovski Craft: Dodge Cost -5
3) Beam Coating
4) Usable by Ensigns and above


I based these stats from my research in the net. I have already shown them to Alk. Just showing this to you just in case you dun meet him cuz you're busy or something ^^

My reply:
Thanks for the stats, mafty! To be honest, the new stats have its ups and downs in my view. With the missing weapons and abilities (Penelope shield, etc. Well, they are based off the G Gen ^^), they did went down a little. But ze more accurate names (the Minovsky stuff, adjusted Funnel Missile for Penelope, Penelope's HP as boss) are reasonable.

I'll talk to the other Hangar Engineers about it. Thanks again. ;D

I suggest we keep the important things for ze units while adding some stuff and correcting the names. What do you guys think?

[Beanoverse]

Updates from mafty:

ACK! GOMEN!! I sent you the unupdated stats I made. The updated stats will be below this message.

Basically, what I've researched on is the fact that Xi and Penelope are almost twins except for some small differences.

First of which, Penelope needs its Flight Unit to fly while Xi doesn't need it and doesn't even have one. Second, Penelope has no shield. This fact is also present in G-Gen. Third, since Pene has that flight unit, its HP should be bigger than Xi. But in a way, the presence of a shield in Xi manages to balance that increase of HP with Pene.

But in truth, I have found 2 Japanese sites that specifically say that Xi and Penelope also pack normal funnels aside from funnel missiles.(and atmospheric funnels to boot! ) But I did not include this in the stats cuz of the fact that adding them would be kinda confusing.

Here are the updated stats. Well, technically, the only updated thing was Xi's missile launcher. I want them to have almost equal weapons, so...


X Gundam

Stats:
HP: 60, EN: 25, IS: 2

Weapons:
1) Vulcan - 2 damage x 2, 20 rounds
2) Missile Launcher (P)- 5 damage x 2, 10 rounds
3) Beam Saber (M)- 12 damage
4) Beam Rifle (B)- 12 damage, 10 rounds
5) Funnel Missile (PSX)- 12 damage/PC. Requires NT/EH ability

Inherent Abilities:
1) Shield
2) Countercut
3) Minovski Engine: Dodge Cost -5
4) Beam Coating
5) Usable by Ensigns and above


Penelope

Stats:
HP: 75, EN: 25, IS: 2

Weapons:
1) Vulcan - 2 damage x 2, 20 rounds
2) Missile Launcher (P)- 10 damage, 10 rounds
3) Beam Saber (M)- 12 damage
4) Beam Rifle (B)- 15 damage, 8 rounds
5) Funnel Missile (PSX)- 12 damage/PC. Requires NT/EH ability

Inherent Abilities:
1) Countercut
2) High-Output Minovski Craft: Dodge Cost -5
3) Beam Coating
4) Usable by Ensigns and above

[Beanoverse]

Umm, so what do you guys think on this matter?

[Freyia]

So...can you explain what the 'issue' is? Thanks.

[Beanoverse]

We just have to review the proposed updates and edit the current ones as suited to the facts and all. One notable part is the Penelope's HP.

[Teniquette Zezernan]

The Penelope is supposed to be a "boss" unit of sorts. But personally, I suggest that the HP be boosted up by 5 or 10. Everything else on both sets of stats is cool with me.

[Freyia]

If both of them are high class units, then the stats are fine. But do they need weapon upgrades then?

[Beanoverse]

I think there are only a little weapon upgrades needed.

The changes that I think should be done are:

- Penelope's HP to boss level (50 --> 75).

- Funnel Missiles uses 2 PCs per shot, which puts it at diadvantage compared to other Funnel users. Let's change them to 1 PC as per the suggestion.

- Removal of Penelope's shield.

- Renaming of Advanced Minovsky Craft to Minovsky Engine for Xi Gundam, and High-Output Minovsky Craft for Penelope. Their Dodge Cost remain the same.

- Increasing of Penelope's price due to changes (180 Private Rank --> 200 Private Rank)